QUESTION. (Clark of the St. Louis Globe-Democrat.)
Mr. Vice President, as you know, sir, we suddenly have a Senate race in
Missouri. I don't know whether you have had an opportunity to look into
it, but I'm wondering if you have any observations on the candidates or
the type of candidates that you would like to see or the chances you believe
the Republican Party has to capture a Senate seat in Missouri?
The VICE PRESIDENT. I have heard about this
race. I heard about it for the first time when I was in Missouri - St.
Louis - a few days ago. The party leaders in Missouri on the Republican
side, as I understand it - and I just checked today on arriving in Springfield
- have not made a decision yet with regard to what candidate to back. Under
those circumstances, as I have informed them, when they asked me for my
advice, it would be inappropriate for me to take a position between those
who are being considered for candidates because, obviously, I intend to
support enthusiastically whatever man the party leaders generally agree
on unanimously - and I trust it will be unanimously - agree should he selected.
As far as the chances of a Republican getting
the seat in Missouri. I would say that if we can get a good strong candidate
we should make a strong race for the Senate in Missouri. I say that because
we have a situation here where, due to the untimely passing of Tom Hennings,
we do not have an incumbent, and had Tom Hennings, of course, been a candidate
we would not have had any reasonable chance, in my opinion, because he
was an incumbent with great popularity in the State. With no incumbent
in the race, with the Republican Party obviously on the upswing in Missouri,
I believe that a good Republican candidate will mean that we will have
a good chance to pick up the Senate seat here, and I intend to give it
all the support I can when our party makes the decision.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, in clarification
of the statement you have made for tonight, do you believe that foreign
policy is a proper subject for discussion in this campaign?
The VICE PRESIDENT. Yes, I certainly do.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, I wonder if
you could clarify this line in your speech, in the excerpts Mr. Klein has
given us: "If Senator Kennedy intends to continue to address himself to
Mr. Khrushchev and the Communist leaders, I say the American people will
hold him accountable for his words." The only speech I can recollect that
he has done this in was the speech in Baltimore Friday night, in which
he said to Mr. Khrushchev, "Don't try and divide us." Is that the speech
you are referring to?
The VICE PRESIDENT. That one and the one he
made last night in Washington, in which he followed the same line.
QUESTION. Did you personally, sir, find these
words objectionable?
The VICE PRESIDENT. No, not at all. I think he has
a perfect right to address himself to Mr. Khrushchev, just as I have, but
I disagree with what he is saying to him. I certainly disagree with him,
as I indicate very strongly in my speech tonight.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, I represent
the Southwest Missouri State Standard and as a representative of about
3,000 students, I would like to know what you would like to say to them.
The VICE PRESIDENT. Well, I would say to them
what I have already implied in talking to our friend from California: That
I trust they will be as active in this campaign as possible - I would hope
on our side; but, in any event, in it on either side, and I have been tremendously
encouraged by the enthusiasm of our younger voters, both high school and
college age in this campaign. It's much greater than in either 1952 or
1956, and I think this is a good sign for the United States.
I would say, finally, this: That for those
who want to choose public service as a career, that I would recommend it,
that I think there is a lot of room in both parties for good, strong new
leadership, and I would hope that they would consider, that as many students
as possible would consider, both elective office as well as appointive
office as a career.
QUESTION. (Milt Bowers, of Springfield's preferred
radio and TV station, KTTS.) Mr. Vice President, the Associated Press quoted
you on Monday of this week as saying: "We can achieve without war the goal
of freedom for the captive peoples behind the Iron Curtain." How do you
propose to go about this?
The VICE PRESIDENT. I propose to go about
that as I indicated earlier this week in answer to the same question by
a program in which we recognize that the moral force of ideas must never
be underestimated, in which at the diplomatic table, in every conference
in which we participate, in our information programs, in the statements
we make, our national leaders, we constantly make clear our opposition
toward accepting Mr. Khrushchev's ultimatum, in effect, that there shall
be a Communist world in which there can be no change and a free world which
must continue to change until it realizes its ultimate destination of becoming
Communist.
I know that there are those who believe that
this is a very unrealistic attitude. I disagree. My study of history proves
to me that where the hope of freedom remains in the hearts of people, and
where it is kept alive by people outside of the area which is enslaved,
eventually those hopes will be realized and I feel that the United States
must continue to support, in every way that we possibly can, short of war
the aspirations of people toward independence through peaceful change.
Mr. Lawrence?
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, I wonder if
you could clarify your suggestion that the Democrats discard criticizing
the administration for what they consider military weaknesses, economic
weaknesses, and so forth, so long as Mr. Khrushchev remains in this country.
Would it be your feeling that they would be free again to criticize when
he leaves; and if this is true, does this not give him some unusual powers
to control debate in an American election?
The VICE PRESIDENT. I can only suggest they
cannot, just as I have indicated on several occasions, of course, call
a moratorium on the campaign while Mr. Khrushchev is here. I suggest, however,
that when they do criticize that they at the same time should emphasize
the strengths of America. Their emphasis has been primarily, and sometimes
almost exclusively, on the weaknesses which they have been pointing up,
and I think, for example, when they point up those things that they
think are wrong militarily or economically they should remind Mr. Khrushchev
that they believe what certainly I think is the fact - and I think certainly
the facts bear this out - that the United States is, first, militarily
stronger than the Soviet Union, that our economy is also stronger, and
I think, too, that they should indicate that they do not believe that our
prestige has fallen to an alltime low. I think the latter point being constantly
reiterated at this time is most unfortunate.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, in the speeches
at Fort Wayne and Louisville today you alluded to the fact that Senator
Kennedy had in May suggested an expression of regrets from the President
might have saved the summit conference. You said that to offer such a concession
without a concession in return was working toward the cause of surrender.
At Louisville you said it was the road to surrender or even to war. Do
you mean to imply and indicate or infer that Mr. Kennedy is espousing a
surrender policy toward the Soviet Union?
The VICE PRESIDENT. Absolutely not. Mr. Kennedy
didn't know what he was espousing. That was the trouble. I've indicated
time and again that Mr. Kennedy is a man that is just as strong against
communism as I am, and as most Americans are, but I indicated that in this
view, because of perhaps lack of understanding and experience he was naive
in making a suggestion that I think would have led to exactly the thing
that he would have been just as strongly against as I am.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, if you become President,
what course would you pursue in our relationship with Cuba?
The VICE PRESIDENT. What course would I pursue
in what?
QUESTION. Your relation with Cuba, the United
States' relationship with Cuba.
The VICE PRESIDENT. If I become President,
what relationship would I pursue in our relations with Cuba? I would
pursue the line that we are presently pursuing. I realize that line is
subject to criticism, because we have a very difficult situation; but to
those who do criticize what we are doing my answer, of course, is: What
is the alternative?
There are those who say, "Why don't we send
Marines to Cuba?" We could do it and we could give it to Mr. Castro in
24 hours, but getting rid of Castro in Cuba would not get rid of Castroism
in Cuba or in Latin America and it would set in motion, in my opinion,
a chain reaction of opposition to the United States through the other Latin
American countries, which could be very, very detrimental to our foreign
policy. That's why I think the United States, with its great power, has
to continue to treat Cuba, as it has, with consideration, always patient,
working with our other friends in Latin America, to be sure that they will
support our position toward Castro and toward his close association with
communism in Cuba.
I would add one other thing: I think that
Mr. Castro's very close identification with Mr. Khrushchev at the U.N.
will not help him in Cuba.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, to date, most
of your speeches and general campaign strategy have been aimed toward foreign
policy and international relations. Now, every candidate realizes that
they must build toward a peak just before election day in the campaign.
With this in mind, is it possible you will become more explicit on domestic
issues as the campaign draws to a close?
The VICE PRESIDENT. Yes. During the course
of the campaign, through major pronouncements, we obviously will present
programs in various fields, both foreign policy and domestic.
I have a major farm speech, for example, a
second one, on Friday and I have a major statement on education which will
be released for Monday papers this week. That pace, of course, will pick
up as the campaign goes along.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, you mentioned
that there would be a growing resentment against America if we interfered
in the Castro situation. Do you believe that there is already a growing
resentment against America in other parts of the world; and, if you do,
do you have any plans to counteract it after you become President?
The VICE PRESIDENT. The role of a country
as strong as the United States in our relations with countries that are
less strong to the south and, for that matter, other countries as well,
is never a very easy one. There is resentment against the so-called colossus
of the north, resentment which we could understand if we were in the same
position, I am sure.
Now, as far as our program toward Cuba is
concerned though I would say that, from what I have learned, from talking
to some Latin American leaders and from the reports I have read from our
diplomats who have talked to Latin American leaders in other countries,
they applaud what the United States has been doing toward Castro, by the
strength that we have shown, the fact that we have not thrown our weight
around in a way that many would have thought would have been unreasonable.
They feel we were correct, I think, the majority of them, in acting as
we did with regard to the sugar, the taking away of special consideration
that we had with regard to sugar. They thought that was justified in view
of the Cuban Government's expropriation of much of our property, but I
think our present course in Cuba has not lost us friends in Latin America.
If anything, it has gained us friends.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, among Senator
Kennedy's statements which you criticize is the statement that Mr. Khrushchev
could well be tempted to make the most of "how much faster your economy
is growing than ours." Is it your position, sir, that Mr. Khrushchev hasn't
been making capital out of this already and wouldn't he have done so if
Senator Kennedy hadn't mentioned it?
The VICE PRESIDENT. Mr. Khrushchev has certainly
told me that his economy was growing faster than ours; but, on the other
hand, after his visit to the United States, I don't think Mr. Khrushchev
is quite as confident of that as he thought. Might I also suggest that,
as far as this comparative rate of growth is concerned, I intend to discuss
that tomorrow in my speech at Rockford. I will develop it further, but
I will touch upon it here only to this extent - by saying that when we
consider the percentages of growth that is no indication of when and how
Mr. Khrushchev or any other country will catch us because, as far as the
absolute gap is concerned - and I will develop this further tomorrow -
the absolute gap will continue to grow in our favor and not in theirs.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, some of us in
the back of the room didn't get your complete answer to Mr. Potter's question.
You said you thought that Mr. Kennedy didn't know what he was espousing,
and what was - would you mind repeating the rest of your answer, sir?
The VICE PRESIDENT. Well, as I recall Mr.
Potter's question, it was: Was I indicating that Mr. Kennedy favored surrender
to the Soviet Union, that he was espousing a policy of surrender when he
suggested that President Eisenhower should have expressed regrets to Mr.
Khrushchev?
And my answer was: Absolutely not; that I
had said that Mr. Kennedy really didn't know, in my opinion, what he was
saying and the implications of what he was suggesting, and I suggested
that the reason he, therefore, had made that statement was that he had
a lack of understanding of what it would lead to. I went on and further
said that Mr. Kennedy was just as strong against communism as I was; he
would oppose surrender just as strongly as I would. The question is the
particular procedure that he recommended here, the advisability of it.
In my opinion, it was a procedure that if followed, would have ended up
in a result that he would have opposed as much as I do.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, former Representative
Dewey Short said today he would consider making the race if he had your
support. If nominated, would he have your support?
The VICE PRESIDENT. Mr. Short
QUESTION. Will you repeat the question, Mr. Vice
President?
The VICE PRESIDENT. Yes. I'll repeat it.
He said that former Representative Dewey Short
said today he would consider making the race in Missouri if he had my support,
and the question was: If he were nominated, would he have my support?
And the answer is: The nominee of the party
will certainly have my support. If Mr. Short is nominated, I will support
him enthusiastically. He's a very good candidate, as are the others that
are being considered. [Laughter.]
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, now that the
crisis in the Congo has subsided somewhat, what course do you think that
the American foreign policy should take as far as the African situation
is concerned?
The VICE PRESIDENT. The question, as I understand,
is: Now that the crisis in the Congo has subsided somewhat, what course
should American foreign policy take with regard to the Congo and particularly
Africa in general?
That is a subject that I intend to develop
later in more detail in the course of major speeches, but I will say at
this point that I
believe, with regard to the newly developing countries that are acquiring
independence, that the formula that was developed here with regard to the
Congo is one that may possibly have to be further refined so that it can
go into action when needed in other countries. Here the United Nations
by its action came into a situation in which there was chaos in the country
and in which, if the United Nations had not moved in with strength, the
only other power in the area, which was held by the Communists, would have
taken over. They always come in where chaos exists. So, I believe this
pattern having been established in the Congo must also be continued in
other areas as well.
Now, beyond that, may I say, looking at what
the United States does, apart from the United Nations, which, of course,
we should support, I have supported for some time - and I still support
- a program of greatly expanded exchange and technical assistance for Latin
America - Latin America, I should say, but particularly for Africa and
the newly developing countries; and I have espoused these programs because
I recognize that all of the developmental money that we put into these
countries will go for nothing unless they can have the trained technicians
both in government and on the productive side which can make use of it
effectively. It just doesn't make sense to turn these countries loose,
to provide money for them, without also giving them the opportunity to
develop the trained people who can use the funds an also can handle the
independence, and on these scores the United States must assume a unilateral
responsibility as well as supporting multilateral action through the United
Nations.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, Monday, Governor
Rockefeller said he was holding off action on the medical care program
because of the means test and the fact that he thought the State would
have difficulty financing it. Do you feel this is going to be modified
in the coming session of the Congress or would you favor eliminating that,
the means test, or, as he wants to do, put it under the social security
system?
The VICE PRESIDENT. Governor Rockefeller's
position on the medical care, as we both indicated prior to the convention,
has differed from the position that I have taken. He favors financing the
medical care out of Social Security and I favor the Federal-State program,
which was contained in the Javits bill which, as you recall, was defeated
in the Senate. My view is that the bill passed by the last Congress was
certainly a great improvement over what we have. It was a step in the right
direction. However, I believe that this bill is a most inadequate answer
to the whole problem and, in my opinion, the next Congress, as early as
possible, should try to consider again a program which will deal with the
problem. I happen to believe that there should be - and I will continue
to support - a program which will be Federal-State in character and which
is not compulsory, such as the social security program would be, from the
standpoint of its financing. But that would be my comment with regard to
the general situation.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, do you think
the American people are mature enough to weigh the merits of a foreign
policy debate, the Democratic case against your own case, despite whether
Mr. Khrushchev is in the country or not, or is there some other reason
for a moratorium?
The VICE PRESIDENT. There's no reason at all for
a moratorium, in my opinion. I have indicated that the presidential campaign
must go forward, with this one personal restriction which I placed on myself.
I don't intend to comment on what Mr. Khrushchev, himself, says because
that is the President's prerogative. I believe the American people are
mature enough to consider foreign policy both while Mr. Khrushchev is here
and while he is out of the country.
I would only suggest that it is the responsibility
of candidates, particularly while he is here, at a time when they are pointing
up the weaknesses of America, to emphasize our strength, and I have
been emphasizing our strengths. I would hope Senator Kennedy would emphasize
them more than he has been emphasizing them.
QUESTION. Mr. Vice President, the other day
Castro's brother hinted that they might want to reclaim the big U.S. Naval
Base---
The VICE PRESIDENT. Guantanamo. Yes.
QUESTION. In that case, what course do you
think the United States should follow and what course do you think they
might follow?
The VICE PRESIDENT. What course should the
United States follow in the event that Castro's brother's threat of taking
over Guantanamo is carried through?
My answer to that is that I think it is very
unwise for a person who is serving in my position to indicate in advance
what might happen in the event that certain distasteful actions take place.
The net result of that, if I were to answer that question, as to what we
planned to do, might be to trigger the very thing we don't want. So, consequently,
I would only say this: We trust that this doesn't happen, and I believe
that our plans as to what we should do should be announced then and decided.
They should not be discussed publicly.
QUESTION. Thank you very much, Mr. Vice President.
Just a moment, Mr. Vice President. Here in
the Ozarks we would like to know, I think, the residents here, before we
conclude this press conference: How's the old knee? How's it coming along?
The VICE PRESIDENT. Well, I think mine is
the only knee in captivity that hasn't been blamed on football. I would
like to be able to blame it on football, but I got it in a much more rugged
contest - running for the Presidency. But it's in good shape - good shape.