NBC Radio, Show No. 1, September 29, 1960
Correspondents: Morgan Beatty, Leon Pearson, Bryson Rash, Alex Dreier,
Robert McCormick, Elmer Peterson, Richard Harkness.
Producer: James L. Holton.
Announcer: Gene Hamilton.
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ANNOUNCER. The Countdown - X Minus Forty.
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ANNOUNCER. NBC News presents "Election Countdown," coast to coast, the
first in a series of weekly campaign progress reports from around the Nation,
as the 1960 presidential election day approaches. Our two anchor men in
Radio Central are NBC commentators, Morgan Beatty and Leon Pearson. Here's
their roundup report, 40 days before E-day.
BEATTY. This is Morgan Beatty
PEARSON. And Leon Pearson.
BEATTY. We are beginning an electronic numbers
game - a survey, as it looks tonight, of the presidential election campaign
that will wind up 40 days from now with the election. Now, the numbers
we'll be talking about involve the 537 electoral votes cast by the Nation's
electoral college, which will officially determine whether the next President
will be Richard M. Nixon or John F. Kennedy. The winner will be the candidate
who gets the simple majority of these votes, or 269. Each State has a certain
number of votes based on its representation in the Congress, and all the
votes for each State are cast in the electoral college for the candidate
who polls the majority of the popular vote in each State.
PEARSON. You'll recall the occasion - 1888,
it was - when Grover Cleveland won the national popular vote by some hundred
thousand over Benjamin Harrison, but Harrison became President because
his popular votes represented 233 electoral votes, while the apparent winner,
Cleveland, got only 168 votes in the electoral college.
BEATTY. Yes, indeed. We've divided the country
into five geographical areas - the Northeast, the South (including the
so-called border States), the Southwest, the Midwest, and the West Coast
- including Alaska and Hawaii. We'll have reports based on the latest available
information on how these regions are reacting to the campaigns of the two
major candidates, and the local issues, which probably will be major factors.
Let's begin with the South. Bryson Rash reporting.
RASH. I've been assigned to the old "solid
South" east of the Mississippi, plus Louisiana and Arkansas and the border
States of Missouri, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Maryland. One hundred
and forty-four all-important electoral votes are the prize in this area.
Both candidates want all of them. Either would settle for a goodly number.
Neither can count on that result. Hence, a major battleground in 1960.
Gone, perhaps, forever are the days when a Democratic candidate started
his private tabulation with the electoral votes of the South and aimed
his campaign efforts at other areas of the Nation to pick up the required
majority. In 1956, the Republican candidate, Dwight D. Eisenhower, won
almost half of the electoral votes of the 14 States under discussion -
his total was 70. He did not do as well in 1952, winning 55 electoral votes.
The question is: Can the 1960 Republican candidate, Richard M. Nixon, do
as well as Dwight D. Eisenhower? Perhaps not. But all indications are that
he will do well enough to make the Democrats long for the "good old days."
There are a number of reasons for the shift in political chemistry from
the solid to the fluid state. One is the growing industrialization of the
South and its attendant interest in economic and welfare issues.
Southern political leaders, who loudly proclaim
their defiance of civil rights advances publicly, will admit, in the bosom
of their family, that the Republican and Democratic positions are just
about the same and the issue is all but over. But looking at the other
planks in the party platform, they shudder visibly at some of the advanced
notions of the Democrats in the economic and welfare fields. Hence, the
Republican hoax. Then, there are the hurt feelings which exist among southern
Democrats - hurt that the national party leadership would ignore them and
their principles an civil rights and economics, after all the lean years
when that area was the bedrock of the party. But, above all, in this election
year is the religious .issue. No matter how sincere and persistent the
candidates and their aides are in downgrading this fact, it exists and
is a basic consideration in evaluating the voters' mood in the South and
the border areas. It is no more measurable than a dark cloud on the far
horizon. But, as the cloud, the religious issue is liable to grow and cover
the entire area. Breaking down this 14 State sector, Democrat Kennedy seems
safe in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Mississippi, Missouri, South Carolina
for 60 electoral votes. Republican Nixon is ahead in Florida and Virginia
- in the latter State because of the silence of Senator Harry F. Byrd.
There are 22 votes in these two States. The undecided States, then, are
Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, North Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia.
These States hold the balance of power in the South and border areas with
62 of the 144 electoral votes.
PEARSON. Well, Morgan, I'll keep track of
these estimates - and let me emphasize "estimates" - as we go along. Bryson
Rash estimates 22 electoral votes for Nixon; 60 for Kennedy; and 62 somewhere
in the middle, in his survey of the South. Now, let's get our Midwest report.
Alex Dreier is standing by.
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DREIER. This is the heart of the Nation - this
Midwest, the steel giant, the automaker, and the corn king. But the consensus
on the part of the big and little people who make it go seems to be the
traditional "Wait and see." Wait for what? Wait for either candidate, either
Senator Kennedy or Vice President Nixon to catch fire, to demonstrate beyond
any doubt, that one or the other has got the real answers to some of the
most. vexing problems that have ever perplexed the Middle West.
Take the farmer. At times the farmer suspects
everybody would like to take him, in one way or another. He has watched
Mr. Nixon and Mr. Kennedy on television and he has read the texts of their
speeches in his favorite daily and weekly newspapers. But he is still in
the position of the confused novitiate at the religious revival. He finds
himself stumbling over the vague and lofty phrases and unable to resist
an urge to yell, "Spell it out; make it plain, brother." The Middle West
farmer is happy that both candidates are so concerned with his welfare,
but he is still hanging onto the hope that one or the other is going to
make clear exactly what he intends to do. A few things they do know for
certain: They know that the old programs have not worked, and they blame
Secretary Benson for that. Nixon has dropped Benson like a plowed under
potato, but Kennedy has not come up with a panacea, either. Kennedy talks
about restoring supply and demand in proper proportion; Nixon would hold
up farm prices by indemnifying the farmer; but neither man has yet shown
that he can start a rush to the polls by hard-pressed farmers who don't
want Government in farming, but can't do without its help, either. In the
big industrial centers in and around Chicago and Detroit and other Midwest
cities, optimism is conspicuous by its absence. Kennedy has pointed out
that steel production is at only 50 percent of capacity, but that's no
news to the steelworkers. any have been feeling the pinch for long months.
The autoworkers are worried, too, and used cars are beginning to crowd
the lots - certainly, no despair in these areas, but some apprehension,
to be sure. Business? In general it's pretty good; but you can't find a
businessman, big or small, who won't admit he's seen better days - much
better days - and is anxious for a return to them. And, as far as consumers
are concerned, the cost of living continues to skyrocket, while labor and
management negotiations continue to be almost as tight as credit. The Middle
West has dropped its "isolationism"; but in its place, remains a cautious
cynicism, a sort of "show me" attitude. They have heard Mr. Nixon and Mr.
Kennedy. They have listened to the generalities and ambitious promises.
Now they want more specifics - not "We will get back into full production,"
but "How?" Not "We will solve the problem," but "When?" Not "More of everything
for everybody," but "In what way?" So at this moment, no decision, just
indecision; and at stake - those fat 115 electoral votes that could make
all the difference.
BEATTY. Alex, those 115 electoral votes in
the Midwest - how would you break them down as of tonight?
DREIER. It's all very "iffy," of course. If
the big city Chicago Democratic machine can deliver Illinois, and if the
Michigan Democratic Party and liberal Minnesota go Kennedy the Senator
can pick up all the marbles, if the farm votes help a little - all ifs.
So an inexpert guess: Kennedy, 58 ; Nixon, 45 ; undecided, 12 ; or maybe
it would be more accurate to say they're all undecided. But you can't take
a survey that way, huh, Morgan ?
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BEATTY. No; you can't, Alex. But, let me point
out to our listeners again that this is only the way the picture looks
tonight - 40 days before election.
PEARSON. Well, the way Alex Dreier sizes up
the Midwest, Morgan, he sees 58 electoral votes for Kennedy, 45 for Nixon,
and States representing 12 votes in neither camp. So, the first two areas
both report Kennedy ahead. Next, four States in the Southwest. Robert McCormick
reporting.
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MCCORMICK. The religious issue may, this time,
give the Republican presidential ticket a victory in normally Democratic
Texas. The Democratic Party in Texas has always included numbers of people
whose reflexes are more nearly what we consider Republican. But this year
the Democratic leadership is, perhaps, more closely united behind the Democratic
ticket than at any time since 1952, or maybe even 1948. Every elected Democratic
official is supporting Kennedy and Johnson. Yet, Nixon and Lodge have a
very good chance of getting the State's 24 electoral votes; and stark emotional
anti-Catholicism is the distinguishing characteristic of the campaign.
Some observers think the situation is worse than it was in 1928.
There have been many rumors about organized
financing behind the movement, but little evidence. Kennedy's forthright
statements and Lyndon Johnson's impassioned appeals for objectivity have
done little good. Yet, Johnson is still the big noise in Texas. He will
unquestionably be overwhelmingly reelected to the Senate - He's running
for that simultaneously with the Vice Presidency - And there are other
issues working against the Democrats in Texas; such as, the civil rights
position and the party's vague situation on the oil-depletion tag allowance.
Nixon and the Republicans are noisily in favor of continuing the allowance.
The Democrats are somewhat equivocal. But oilmen, who might have contributed
heavily to the Republicans, have been inhibited by the presence of Lyndon
Johnson, one of their very best friends, on the Democratic ticket. So,
actually, everything about evens out, except the question of religion.
The intense heat of that issue has reached over into Oklahoma, with eight
electoral votes. And in Oklahoma, anti-Catholicism also is vocal. And this
issue comes on top of severe internal fights in the Democratic Party. Senator
Kerr was for Johnson at the Los Angeles convention. Senator Monroney was
a lonely, but dedicated, tub thumper for Adlai Stevenson. Governor Edmondson
supported Kennedy, but he was having trouble himself, barely made the State
delegation to the convention, carrying a mere half vote. Since then, on
the 20th of this month, he was clobbered in referendums on three reform
measures he was trying to push through. The problem of religion has had
some effect also in eastern New Mexico, but, otherwise, the State and its
four electoral votes seem fairly well solidified for the Democrats. Veteran
Senator Anderson has been doing considerable stumping, and Senator Chavez
has organized effective "Viva Kennedy" clubs among the people of Mexican
backgrounds. In Arizona, also four votes, the oldtime Democratic leaders,
such as McFarland and Hayden, have recovered from the wounds that Kennedy's
energetic young men inflicted when they took over the State organization
before the convention and comparatively, at least, things are fairly quiet.
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PEARSON. So McCormick's Southwest estimate
is 32 for Nixon, 8 votes for Kennedy.
BEATTY. Elmer Peterson is on our Far West
beat. Here's his report now.
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PETERSON. With a total of 77 electoral votes,
the 11 Far West States, including Hawaii and Alaska, will have a strong
voice in the choice of a President. California, alone, has 32 votes and
could easily, as happened in 1948, be the deciding factor in a close national
contest. So far, with 6 weeks to go, no sweeping trend has developed
for either Vice President Nixon or Senator Kennedy. California is still
cool to both candidates. There are no signs that either candidate really
has caught fire in the Far West. But Nixon does seem to have a slight edge,
for the moment, in California, due in part to some feuding within the Democratic
Party, a better financial setup for the Republicans in southern California,
and a tendency, up until recently, for diehard Adlai Stevenson supporters
to demonstrate less than full enthusiasm for Senator Kennedy. In Alaska,
it looks as though Kennedy may win big; while in Hawaii, where Nixon made
a campaign visit, the Republicans have a seeming advantage. So that these
two new States, each with three electoral votes, may well cancel each other
out, in the final result. As it stands, firm predictions are hard to come
by. The Far West went solidly for President Eisenhower 4 years ago, then
staged a strong swing to the Democrats in 1958. Right now, the Far West
is clearly on center, capable of swinging either way. Last-minute international
developments, last-minute campaigning, and the religious issue could force
the swing. Numerically, the Democrats hold the advantage. In California,
Democrats outnumber the Republicans, 3 to 1. To win, Nixon needs a batch
of Republican votes; so it depends on how far the Democrats can get a real
party line vote; how far Nixon can appeal to conservative Democrats and
the massive free-wheeling independent vote in California. To his advantage,
60 percent of California voters live in southern California, his home political
stronghold. Meantime, the polls vary.
One recent California survey - a nonpartisan
effort - showed 49 percent for Nixon, 44 for Kennedy; 7 percent undecided.
A poll in Huntington Park, a bellwether southern California community,
last week showed Kennedy favored by 40.5 percent, Nixon by 37.2 percent,
with 22.3 percent undecided. At this time it looks as though Nixon has
a thin edge in Oregon with six electoral votes; in Colorado with six votes;
Utah with four; Hawaii with three. Kennedy has an apparent slim advantage
in Washington with nine; Montana with four; Wyoming with three; Idaho with
four; Alaska with three; Nevada with three. If the election were to be
held tomorrow, as one reads the available signs, Nixon might, including
California, come through with 51 electoral votes against 26 for Kennedy.
But there are 6 weeks to go with voter decision in the Far West far from
final, and with both sides confident of final victory.
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PEARSON. Well, that big California bloc of
votes, as Elmer Peterson views the Far West, will give the Vice President
a total of 51 electoral votes from that region to Kennedy's 26. So these
two areas - the last two areas reported - show Nixon in the lead.
BEATTY. And that brings us to the region that
very likely will hold the key to the election - the Northeast. Here's the
outlook tonight from Richard Harkness.
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HARKNESS. It is no coincidence that the Vice
President and the Senator are campaigning in the East tonight, finally
taking off the kid gloves, and becoming personal; for it is here in this
area - in New England and the Middle Atlantic States - that Nixon or Kennedy
will win or lose this election. Nixon, for instance, is in Boston, in Massachusetts,
the home State of his opponent. Earlier today he had stumped on Long Island,
then in Vermont and New Hampshire. Well, tonight, in his Boston address,
Nixon strikes the hardest blow yet at Kennedy. He calls the Senator's performance
in the recent Congress a "monumental failure." Nixon says that the Democratic
candidate's "gaping performance gap" will bring his defeat for President
in November.
For Kennedy's part, he is in Syracuse, N.Y.,
this evening, and he has had a full day - a speech on the State Capitol
steps in Albany, and then a motorcade through New York's Mohawk Valley.
And, like Nixon, Kennedy is becoming personal. He jeers tonight, for instance,
at what he calls Nixon's "glowing, sugarcoated" assurances that we are
ahead of Russia in arms, science, and space. Now, off a cold, political
analysis, the candidates have sufficient reason for descending from the
high campaign road. Massachusetts has 16 electoral votes - a bloc now put
in the Kennedy column - and Nixon wants those votes. Likewise, Kennedy
knows that ex-President Truman is the only candidate in recent years to
win without New York. He knows that Eisenhower carried the State by a million
and a half votes in '56 and that Rockefeller swamped Harriman in '58. And
Kennedy is carrying the fight to the Republicans in their nominal stronghold
- upstate New York. Altogether, taking New England, plus the Middle Atlantic
States, the total electoral college vote here is 161. Well, Mr. Eisenhower
carried every one of those States, 4 years ago. Now, Democrats feel confident
that they will make some heavy inroads into the area; and there are valid
political reasons for reporting that the confidence is not misplaced. Actually,
the experts of both parties say it is too early to put States in this camp
or that, but, from current reports, than from past performances, this is
the best rundown I can get as of this evening. Give Maine, Vermont, and
New Hampshire to Vice President Nixon for 12 electoral votes; but Kennedy's
outlook is best in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Connecticut. So, if
this guess is right, give Kennedy 28 in the electoral college. But it is
in New York, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey that you get down to brass tacks;
and no one at this stage is claiming New York State, not even a definite
lead. Neither side professes optimism over Pennsylvania at this stage.
Right now, personally, I wouldn't even wager the hole in the doughnut.
But, with campaigns such as Nixon and Kennedy are waging this evening,
a trend may develop shortly.
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BEATTY. With all the action in these key Northeastern
States, perhaps we'll be able to perceive a trend soon. Leon, check me
if our figures are correct. Richard Harkness left 121 of those mighty important
votes from the key eastern industrial States still a tossup.
PEARSON. Right, Morgan. From New York across
to Ohio, there's a huge question mark. His rundown did give Kennedy 28
possible votes; Nixon 12. Now, my totals look like this after checking
out our correspondents in the five national regions representing the 50
States. As of tonight, Kennedy appears to be ahead in States representing
180 electoral votes; Nixon ahead in States representing 162. And a huge
bloc of 195 votes still very much uncertain. In other words, the largest
bloc is the uncertain bloc - Kennedy, 180 ; Nixon, 162. Now, where, Morgan,
do you think the uncertainty lies? What's the cause of this?
BEATTY. Well, I think the uncertainty lies
in, perhaps, the religious issue, first, and the economic pulling and hauling,
second, and finally, and I think most importantly, the international uncertainty.
And I'd like to point out that we haven't covered a very strange mystery
that's appearing in these registration figures we get from the various
States. As you know, Leon, many States do not give us good, sound registration
figures. The secretaries of state give us estimates from many States. Yet,
in certain specific areas, we do get figures. For example, they have just
complete, as I've noted in my travels, registration in Montgomery County,
Md., and in Prince Georges County.
PEARSON. You lived in Montgomery, I believe.
BEATTY. Yes, I did. And also, Prince Georges
is next door, just next to Washington. Now, the trend is the same as usual
in registration. Two to one Democratic in Prince Georges; three to two
Democratic in Montgomery County; and an added mystery. There are more registrations
in proportion to the voting eligibility in those States - more than they
were even when Eisenhower was running. And let's point out that, even though
the Democrats have a tremendous edge in those areas, Eisenhower carried
both of them - carried Maryland, certainly.
PEARSON. Well, are you arguing, Morgan, that
higher registration - let me put the question this way: Do you think that
either party benefits from an increased registration? I say this because
I noticed recently, evidence of great effort by both parties, but particularly
by the Democrats, to get out the vote. Because they seem to think that
they will benefit more than the Republicans by an increased registration,
an increased pattern.
BEATTY. That is certainly true in the industrial
areas, and they have a very efficient "get-out-the-vote" campaign through
labor unions that are very frankly supporting Kennedy. But I think in the
past, for example in the case of President Eisenhower, he pulled out 20
million extra votes in 1952 and again in 1958, and he got 15 million of
them.
PEARSON. Well, this big uncertain bloc is
something we'll be watching as the next week comes up.
BEATTY. Right. Thus is Morgan Beatty and Leon
Pearson, NBC News.
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Countdown," coast to coast, a continuing weekly report on the 1960 presidential
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