THE PRESIDENT. Good morning. I have
several brief announcements.
[ 1.] One, I would like to announce
that I have invited the Prime Minister of Canada, the Right Honorable John
G. Diefenbaker, to make a brief visit to Washington, on Monday, February
20, for discussion of matters of mutual interest to our two countries.
I particularly am glad he is coming. We will hold a luncheon in his honor
at the White House. I think it is most important that harmonious relations
exist between two old friends, and therefore I am glad to have this chance
to visit with the Prime Minister.
[ 2.] Secondly, I do want to
say a word or two about NATO. This is our central and most important defensive
alliance, but in the larger sense it is much more. The members of NATO
must be leaders also in and out of NATO itself, in such great causes as
the integration of Europe and the cooperative development of new nations.
We for our part mean to go on as full and energetic partners in NATO, and
in particular we wish to maintain our military strength in Europe. Secretary
Rusk is making an especially careful study of our policy in this great
organization and I am delighted to say that he will have the help not only
of Ambassador Finletter, but of an advisory group under the direction of
one of the true founders of NATO, a distinguished former Secretary of State,
Mr. Dean Acheson.
[ 3.] Three, with the approval
of Secretary Ribicoff, I am directing the Surgeon General to organize and
establish within the Public Health Service a Child Health Center, to deal
with the special health problems of children. This is a matter of particular
interest to me. Some 400,000 babies are born each year with congenital
malformations. I don't think as a country, nationally, and as a matter
of fact I don't think probably privately we have done enough on research
into the causes of mental retardation. And while a good deal of effort
is being expended in this country for the care of these children, I do
think it is most important that we devote special effort in the coming
months and years to research in the causes of it. I am therefore delighted
that we are going to proceed ahead with Governor Ribicoff's strong support.
Thank you.
[ 4.] Q. Mr. President, in the
past 24 hours there has arisen a somewhat hard to understand situation
concerning the missile gap. An official of your administration, who was
identified in some newspapers this morning as Secretary McNamara, has been
quoted as saying that the missile gap which was expected and talked about
so much did not exist, nor did he see prospects of it. Your press secretary,
yesterday afternoon, denied this story. Now, I wonder if you can set the
record clear, if you can tell us your version of what Secretary McNamara
said, and what your feelings are about the missile gap. Does it exist,
and how and where does it exist?
THE PRESIDENT. My only conversation
with Mr. McNamara was not at any off-the-record meeting, if such a meeting
took place, but was in a conversation which I had with him yesterday afternoon
after the reports appeared.
Mr. McNamara stated that no
study had been concluded in the Defense Department which would lead to
any conclusion at this time as to whether there is a missile gap or not.
In addition, I talked this morning to Mr. Hitch, who is the Comptroller
of the Defense Department, who has been given the responsibility by the
Secretary of Defense to conduct a review of our strategic weapons in the
same way that Mr. Nitze is conducting a review of our tactical weapons.
Mr. Hitch informed me that no study has been completed on this matter.
He hoped to have a preliminary study completed by February 20th, but he
did tell me quite specifically that as of today he is not prepared to make
a judgment as to our capacity in strategic weapons.
There are many complicated problems
involved. We have the realization that the United States will not strike
first, and, therefore, we have to consider what will be available to the
United States if an attack took place upon us, not only in missiles, but
also in the other arms of our arsenal, SAC, the Navy, Polaris, and all
the rest.
So I think in answer to your
question, the study has not been completed. It has not come, therefore,
across my desk. There will be a study of how the budget for fiscal 1961
and 1962 should be changed in view of our strategic position, but that
study will not be completed by either Mr. Nitze or Mr. Hitch, or come across
Mr. McNamara's desk to be passed to me, for some days.
Q. Well, sir, during the campaign
you seemed to feel very strongly that a serious missile gap did exist then.
Do you now feel as strongly?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, what I
hope to do is to wait until the Defense Department who I have given this
responsibility to, Mr. McNamara, and he has passed the responsibility to
members of his department - I hope that we will have a clearer answer to
that question. Of course, it is my hope that the United States is fully
secure. I will be pleased if that is the result. If it isn't, I think it
is important that we know about it, and I will say that we will then -
I will then take on the responsibility of passing on to the Congress this
collective judgment as to our position and what needs to be done.
So that without getting into
the discussion of these stories this morning, I do want to say that it
is my information that these studies are not complete, and therefore it
would be premature to reach a judgment as to whether there is a gap or
not a gap.
[ 5.] Q. Mr. President, could
you tell us what you think about the wisdom - the idea of - these background
news briefings where governmental officials do not identify themselves
as distinguished from this type of wide-open news conference?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, they are
hazardous in many cases - [laughter] - and I think our Mr. McNamara might
agree with that now. On the other hand, I will say that they are important,
too. I'd hope it would be possible to work out some satisfactory system
where reporters who are charged with covering matters which are particularly
complicated, where they would have a chance to discuss with the responsible
official on a background basis so that their stories would be more accurate.
I believe there have been such conversations in this administration already
and they have been, I think, useful. This one, evidently a controversy
has arisen from it, but I hope that it will be possible for the responsible
officials and the reporters who are particularly concerned with that area,
to work out ground rules so that they could be continued.
[ 6.] Q. Mr. President, in keeping
with your statement about NATO, could you tell us how you would look upon
a heads of government meeting of the NATO Council in the near future?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, I would
not be able to give you a response to that. There is a planned meeting
I believe at Oslo, of the foreign ministers, in May. I have seen newspaper
reports that it might be turned into a heads of state meeting. But I must
say that there has been no judgment reached; I think it is fair to say
that the matter is not as yet under consideration.
[ 7.] Q. Mr. President, you
said during one of your recent messages that this Nation was rapidly approaching
its hour of maximum danger or peril - I forget the exact words. Some people
have suggested that perhaps you were painting the picture blacker than
it is for shock purposes. Could you perhaps spell out for us this morning
what you have in mind, and whether you really sincerely feel that we are
approaching this peril as you said?
THE PRESIDENT. I sincerely believe
what I said in my State of the Union Address about our position in the
world. I hold this office for the next 4 years, and I believe that the
next 4 years will be years in which this country and its capacity to maintain
its position and security will be strongly tested. I think that anyone
who looks at the globe and looks at the increasing power of the Communist
bloc, the belligerency which marks the bloc, particularly the Chinese Communists,
I would say would come to the conclusion that we are going to be severely
tested in the next 4 years.
[ 8.] Q. Mr. President, 3 months
ago a Federal court in New Orleans ordered two public schools there desegregated.
Since then, what is apparently an organized campaign of intimidation has
kept most white children out of those schools and effectively frustrated
the court order.
During the campaign you spoke
of using your moral authority as President in the civil rights field. Can
you tell us what you plan to say or do to help the New Orleans families
who evidently want to obey the Constitution but are afraid to do so?
THE PRESIDENT. I will - at such
time as I think it is most useful and most effective, I will attempt to
use the moral authority or position of influence of the Presidency in New
Orleans and in other places. I want to make sure that whatever I do or
say does have some beneficial effect and, therefore, it is a matter which
we are considering.
Q. But you do not have anything
to say specifically about New Orleans today or about what has happened
there - for example, last week the man who had tried to send his children
to school and then in fear left town?
THE PRESIDENT. We are going
to - I will comment. As far as New Orleans goes, it is my position that
all students should be given the opportunity to attend public schools regardless
of their race, and that is in accordance with the Constitution. It is in
accordance, in my opinion, with the judgment of the people of the United
States. So there is no question about that.
Now specifically, what we could
most use fully do in order to provide an implementation of the court decision
in New Orleans that is a matter which we are carefully considering. On
the general question, there is no doubt in my view: students should be
permitted to attend schools in accordance with court decisions. The broader
question of course is, regardless of the court decisions I believe strongly
that every American should have an opportunity to have maximum development
of his talents, under the most beneficial circumstances, and that is what
the Constitution provides. That is what I strongly believe.
On the question specifically
of what we can usefully do in New Orleans in order to provide a more harmonious
acquiescence with the court decision, I would feel that we could perhaps
most usefully wait until we have concluded our analysis of it.
[ 9.] Q. Mr. President, the
Congress has spent a good deal of time investigating regulatory agencies
and Executive interference in them. Now, your assistant, Mr. Landis, has
suggested that a White House office be set up to oversee these agencies.
Do you feel this might lead to the same kind of Executive interference
that the Congress has been investigating?
THE PRESIDENT. Mr. Landis recommended
such a White House office in his study. I have asked Mr. Landis to come
to the White House, not to fill such an office, of course, which is not
established, but merely to work with the White House and with the interested
members of Congress who are concerned about improving our regulatory procedures.
He is going to stay some months
and do that. I conferred yesterday with Congressman Harris, who has a special
responsibility as Chairman of the House Committee on Interstate and Foreign
Commerce, and we are going to continue to work together to try to speed
up the procedures of the regulatory agencies and improve their actions.
Whether we should have such
a White House liaison or center is a matter which we are going to consider.
The Congress bears special responsibility for these agencies, and, therefore,
I think it is probably not likely that major responsibility in this area
would be released to the White House, and I am not completely sure it is
wise.
[ 10.] Q. Sir, this question
is a bit on the personal side. You have available to you at the Catoctin
Mountains in Maryland a very fine weekend retreat that has been used by
former Presidents. Sir, do you plan to use it and if so, do you plan to
rename it back to Shangri-La? And also I believe you have two Government
yachts at your disposal. Do you plan to use them, too, sir?
THE PRESIDENT. I am not going
to use the yachts at the present time. [Laughter] I don't plan to use Camp
David very often. Now, I will keep - I think the name should be kept Camp
David. But I doubt if I will go there very often. On the question of the
yachts, we will have to wait and see what the situation is. I believe we
have the Barbara Anne, and I am not familiar with the other yacht.
[11.] Q. Mr. President, there
is a report from Australia this morning, quoting an American scientist
as saying that we will have a man in space within 6 weeks. I wonder if
you have ordered an acceleration of our space program, or if you consider
it for psychological or other reasons that we are in a race with the Russians
to get a man into space?
THE PRESIDENT. No, in the first
place, I don't know anything about that report. We are very concerned that
we do not put a man in space in order to gain some additional prestige
and have a man take disproportionate risk, so we are going to be extremely
careful in our work and even if we should come in second in putting a man
in space, I will still be satisfied if when we finally do put a man in
space his chances of survival are as high as I think that they must be.
[ 12.] Q. Mr. President, it
has been rather reliably reported that you and some of your staff members
and Cabinet members were quite active on the Hill by phone and otherwise
in the recent rules fight. Could you give us your views as to what your
activity and that of your Cabinet members and staff members will be in
the coming legislative year, as far as getting your program going?
THE PRESIDENT. We have a liaison
officer, Mr. O'Brien, and he has Mr. Wilson who is liaison for the House
and Mr. Manatos who is liaison for the Senate, and we will attempt to keep
close contact between the White House and the House and the Senate in order
to give our program the best possible chance that it has to pass. So we
will keep very close contact with the Hill, and I hope that they will be
harmonious.
[ 13.] Q. You said in the past
that the release of the two fliers recently helped in our relations with
the Soviet Union. Would you care to outline for us, sir, any developments
you might hope to take place prior to any possible future summit meeting
with Mr. Khrushchev?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, I said
that it removed a serious obstacle to harmonious relations with the Soviet
Union, the release of the fliers. Mr. Thompson arrives back this week,
and I am going to meet with Mr. Thompson on several occasions this week
- on Saturday morning with Mr. Thompson, Mr. Bohlen, and Mr. Kennan - to
help chart our future relations with the Soviet Union. There are some things
that I think could usefully be done, and must be done if our relations
are going to continue to be fruitful. We are concerned, as I am sure they
are, with the situation in Laos. We are concerned with the situation in
the Congo, as I am sure they are, and I am hopeful that we can make our
position clear to them, and accomplish some useful result.
[ 14.] Q. Mr. President, the
Mexican Americans are very concerned because you have not named one of
them to a high place in your administration. They say that they are the
only ethnic group that worked for you nationally, in the "Viva Kennedy"
clubs and GI forums, that has not been recognized. I wonder if you plan
to give them some recognition?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, we have,
I think, Dr. Garcia, from the State of Texas, who I believe has gone with
Ambassador Whitney to Jamaica this weekend. We did offer a position of
responsibility to an American of Mexican extraction who was unable to accept
it, but it was a position of high responsibility.
I quite agree with you that
we ought to use what I consider to be a great reservoir of talent, and
I think this is particularly true in our relations with Latin America.
So I will just say to you that it is a matter of interest and that we will
continue to see if we can provide for - if we can associate them with our
administration more closely.
[ 15.] Q. Mr. President, last
weekend the Russians launched a 7-ton satellite in orbit which they said
was a test of a new rocket. This has led to worldwide speculation that
there might have been a man aboard. What do we know about this Russian
rocket and about the recent rumored Russian attempts to launch a man into
space?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, I have
no information about - that there was a man involved. We have no evidence
that there was a man in the rocket. We have, of course, some information,
a good deal of which has appeared in the press, about the rocket. And it
is a large one and it may be part of their experiments leading up to placing
a man in space. But at least as of now we have no evidence that there is
a man in there. But I am sure that they will continue these experiments
leading up to placing one there.
[ 16.] Q. Mr. President, in your message
to Congress on the gold problem, there was one passage in there in which
you referred to interest rates on foreign funds which had a sentence that
might lead to the presumption that perhaps you had in mind submitting legislation
which would give you a little more authority over domestic interest rates
in other fields. Is this a reasonable conclusion? Do you have any intention
to expand the authority of the Presidency with respect to domestic interest
rates?
THE PRESIDENT. No. As you -
we have had consultations with the Federal Reserve Board about what action
should be taken to provide that the interest rate on short-term securities
would not come down while the interest rate - which does affect the gold
flow - while the interest rate on long-term securities remains high, which
does adversely affect the economy.
But what, of course, we are
interested in is to see the short-term rates remain high enough to protect
our gold, while the long-term rates be reduced somewhat in order to stimulate
the economy. But this is a matter under the control, of course, directly,
of the Federal Reserve Board, with the Treasury having, of course, a direct
interest in it.
But it is not intended, to answer
your question, that we would propose any legislation or any Executive orders
which would increase our control directly over long-term rates.
[ 17.] Q. Mr. President, in regard
to NATO, have you looked into the problem or the recommendation of the
previous administration that NATO be given its own nuclear weapons, or
will this be left up to the Acheson group, and when will that group be
expected to report?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, that was
one of the matters, of course, which General Norstad briefly discussed.
It is a matter now which is being reviewed by Ambassador Finletter with
the aid of Mr. Acheson. That is one of the, I would say, central matters
of interest to us now, and both of these men will be working on it.
Q. When will that group report
to you, approximately?
THE PRESIDENT. I haven't got
a time on it, but I think we ought to move with some speed in it.
[ 18.] Q. Mr. President, the States
now can set their own safety and regulatory standards for atomic industrial
development within their own borders. Critics of this do-it-yourself provision
believe that it increases the danger of nuclear accidents and favor complete
Federal control within these areas. Would you give us your views on it?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, I will
have to look into it. I am not informed about it.
[ 19.] Q. Sir, in all the discussions
about the gold problem, there keeps coming back West Germany doing more
of its share in aiding underdeveloped areas and taking on more commitments
in the common defense. Is your administration making representations either
through the Treasury Department or through our Ambassador to get the Germans
to do more in these fields?
THE PRESIDENT. Yes.
Q. Could you elaborate on it,
sir?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, I think
that the proposals that have been made, of course, in our opinion do not
meet the problem or the opportunity, and I am hopeful that we can work
out a more satisfactory arrangement with the West Germans.
Mr. von Brentano is going to
be in the United States, the Foreign Minister, in the month of February.
I do hope to see him. In addition, we are considering other methods which
could put these negotiations on perhaps a more - a higher level.
Q. Just to follow that up, sir,
could you spell out what you mean by "higher level"? Are you finding that
you are running into problems with them because of their upcoming election?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, they have
a good many responsibilities and problems of their own. In addition to
whatever they do in relation to us they have other responsibilities to
the French and the British. So in fairness, I must say the matter is not
wholly easy for the Germans. However, it is a matter of great importance
and I therefore think it might be useful to provide that these discussions
should take place on a higher level than they have in the past.
[ 20.] Q. Mr. President, you
spoke during the campaign about the need of getting things moving again.
I wonder if you could tell us how well you think you have succeeded so
far in creating a new mood in Washington?
THE PRESIDENT. As far as the
domestic economy or as far as generally?
Q. Putting some urgency into
it.
THE PRESIDENT. Well, I think
we have talented people in our Washington group who are giving it a great
deal of time and attention. And therefore I am hopeful - though we have
been in office only 2½ weeks - I am hopeful that before the snow
is off the ground that we will have been able to stimulate action in a
variety of areas.
[ 21.] Q. Mr. President, in
your State of the Union Address, you remarked that morality in private
business has not been sufficiently spurred by morality in public business.
In the light of the economy-sized malpractice revealed by - carried on
by some of the American leading corporations, would you care to comment
on this situation and the impact of such private business morality or immorality
on the community itself?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, having
participated in the investigation of improper practices in the labor-management
field for 2 or 3 years, and having had a good deal of public attention
given to it, I am hopeful that the Department of Justice, the Antitrust
Division which was very effectively led in recent months, and other agencies
of the Government will concern - and the Congress - will concern itself
about the problem of conflicts of interest and monopolistic practices,
as well as even more illicit practices conducted in the American business
community. And I hope that the business community itself will consider
what steps it could take in order to lift this shadow from its shoulders.
Q. Do you feel, sir, that perhaps
business might well establish codes of ethical practice such as the trade
unions have established?
THE PRESIDENT. Yes. I am hopeful
that the unions will live up to these ethical practices which state a very
high standard for them; and I think it would be very beneficial if business
groups today would consider what they could do to protect themselves from
charges of conflicts of interest of the kind that we have recently seen,
and also of the effort made by these large electrical companies to defraud
the Government. And I must say I would be interested to watch what progress
they can make in that area.
[ 22.] Q. Mr. President, Admiral
Burke's speech was originally checked out and cleared of certain things
which I believe Mr. Salinger said might have been sources of unnecessary
friction with the Soviet Union. Some Republicans in Congress charged that
this was appeasement. Could you sketch in for us the rather difficult ground
between appeasement and "unnecessary friction"?
THE PRESIDENT. No. All I would
say is that I would hope that those who make speeches in the area of national
security, Chiefs of Staff and others, and all others, would attempt to
have those speeches coordinated with the Department of State and with the
White House, so that we can make sure that those speeches represent national
policy. I must say it seems to me that Theodore Roosevelt set a very good
standard for us all, and one which I hope this administration will follow
by speaking softly and maintaining---
[ 23.] Q. Mr. President, on Monday
Mr. Rusk said that the United States was prepared to take cooperative action
with the other American Republics to end tyranny, he said, against either
the left or the right. Is it contemplated that we shall ask the other American
States to join with us in some steps on the Cuban problem?
THE PRESIDENT. The Cuban problem
and the problem of tyranny throughout all of Latin America is a matter
which is of course of special concern to Mr. Berle and his group - interdepartmental
group - and they have not concluded their analysis as yet.
[ 24.] Q. Mr. President, Castro is
reported to have built a new radio station, one of the largest in the hemisphere,
which will begin operations within a few months to broadcast pro-Castro
propaganda throughout Latin America. Is there anything we can do or plan
to do to counter this?
THE PRESIDENT. We are giving
the matter of Cuba and its export of its revolution throughout Latin America
a matter of high priority. I could not state what actions will be taken
yet until Mr. Berle, Mr. Mann, and Mr. Rusk have concluded their deliberations,
which are now going ahead very intensively.
[ 25.] Q. Mr. President, one
of your task forces recommended that you be given discretionary power within
limits to cut tax rates as a counter-cyclical device. Can you tell us what
you think of this idea?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, in 1958
there were two proposals to cut taxes. One was made in March and I believe
the other was made in June. I voted against it in March and voted for it
in June, because it seemed to be, according to the economists I talked
to, to be helpful. As you remember, I don't think it got more than 23 or
24 votes. The recession was serious and we ended up with a $12 billion
deficit. Now we are going to take another look at the economy in April
and make a judgment at that time whether we can expect an upturn in the
spring or in the summer.
I will say that I am not convinced
at the present time that Congress would entertain that proposal, and I
would not make it at the present time because I do think we should have
more experience and more perspective on the state of the economy before
making a proposal which is quite far-reaching, and which would cost the
Federal budget perhaps $4 or $5 billion, which is a serious matter and
which would limit, perhaps, our ability to go ahead with other programs
which in the long run may be more useful. If you have a tax cut, it may
last 6 months, if the Congress should grant it, and you lose $5 billion,
which is put back into the economy and expended. With $5 billion or $3
billion devoted to education or health or international security, you can
produce a longer range result. So that this is a matter which must be considered
from various perspectives. In any case, in April we will try to make another
judgment on the state of the economy. What I am concerned about is that
the economy will move along, using less than capacity, and it is extremely
difficult to take steps which will provide quickly for it to operate at
full capacity.
What we are concerned about
is that with the tremendous increase in automation that it's possible for
business profits to remain substantial and yet for employment to lag. The
fact that the steel companies were able to maintain rather substantial
profits at a time when they are operating at less than 50 percent of capacity
does indicate the kind of problem we face with a good many more than 100,000
steel workers out of work.
In answer to your question specifically,
we will come back to what further steps could be taken in April, but I
do hope that the Congress will act on the proposals we have now made, which
involve most especially the unemployment compensation payments and also
the distressed area payments, as well as some improvements in social security.
If we could move ahead on those we could get a better idea of perhaps what
action should be taken in April.
[ 26.] Q. Mr. President, the
fighting in Laos is continuing. The Soviet airlift is now 2 months old.
The Soviet answer to the proposal to revive the International Control Commission
has been delayed for some weeks. I wonder if you can tell us how long this
Government is prepared to wait before it proposes some new action to resolve
this continuing crisis.
THE PRESIDENT. There will be
a meeting at the White House this afternoon on the subject of Laos and
what new action we should now take. And I am hopeful that some proposal
will be forthcoming from that meeting.
[ 27.] Q. Mr. President, many
States are now re-forming their congressional districts as a result of
the 1960 census and inevitably this leads to charges of gerrymandering
directed at both parties. Can you tell us where you stand on Chairman Celler's
bill to control gerrymandering to a certain extent by such devices as making
districts be contiguous and control a certain population within a State?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, even if
you could pass those proposals you could still have a good deal of gerrymandering.
I represented a district which was about 5 to 1 Democratic, which was contiguous,
which was geographically associated with an adjoining district, which was
marginally Republican. Now it is very difficult for the Congress or for
the Federal Government to enforce standards. What should have happened,
of course, is probably under some standards is those two districts cut
in a different way which would have provided instead of one Republican
Congressman with a very marginal majority, while the Democratic Congressman
got 5 to 1, it probably would have ended up with two Democratic Congressmen,
which may or may not have been in the public interest. [Laughter.]
But I do think it is very difficult
for us to try to draw these lines. There isn't any doubt that they are
unsatisfactorily drawn, not only for the Congress, which is not the worst
offender, but the State legislatures, where we have very - and have had
for many years - notorious examples of gerrymandering, but which is a responsibility
for the States, not the Federal Government.
In any case, I am not familiar
wholly with Congressman Celler's proposal and exactly what his standards
will be, but I will look at it.
Q. Mr. President, in that same
connection, could you tell us where you stand or do you have a position
on increasing the size of the House of Representatives?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, it is 435
Members now, which is a large body. Congressman Chelf and I believe other
Congressmen have proposed increasing it, I think to 450. I will discuss
that matter with Speaker Rayburn and get his views as well as the leadership
of the House on both sides.
Reporter: Thank you, Mr. President.