THE PRESIDENT. Gentlemen, I have
several announcements to make.
[ 1.] I know that many of you
have further questions about Cuba. I made a statement on that subject yesterday
afternoon. We are continuing consultations with other American Republics.
Active efforts are being made by ourselves and others on behalf of various
individuals, including any Americans who may be in danger. I do not think
that any useful national purpose would be served by my going further into
the Cuban question this morning. I prefer to let my statement of yesterday
suffice for the present.
[ 2.] I am pleased to announce
that the United States has offered concrete support to a broad scale attack
by the United Nations upon world hunger. I have instructed the Food for
Peace Director to offer $40 million in food commodities towards an initial
United Nations reserve of $100 million. This will be administered by the
United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization. I am informed that other
United Nations members will also make similar contributions. The food will
then be used to relieve hunger and to improve nutrition in underdeveloped
countries of the world. Our participation in this project will complement
rather than diminish our existing Food for Peace program.
[ 3.] Third, I am pleased to
announce that the Veterans Administration will pay a special insurance
dividend of $230 million, in a decision made this morning, to approximately
5 million holders of GI life insurance, beginning July 1. These dividends
have been speeded up in order to assist the economy.
[ 4.] And lastly, I am pleased
to announce that the Peace Corps is proceeding with its first project.
At the request of the Government of Tanganyika, an African country that
will gain its first independence on December 28, the Peace Corps will send
to that country a party of surveyors, geologists, and civil engineers to
help Tanganyika's own technicians map and construct roads. Twenty surveyors,
4 geologists, and 4 civil engineers will provide some of the skills needed
to accelerate the development plan. There is nothing more important in
Tanganyika than the development of roads to open up the country, and I
am delighted that some Americans have volunteered to help in this important
effort.
[ 5.] Q. Mr. President, can
you tell us anything about your talk with Vice President Nixon last night?
THE PRESIDENT. I brought - the
Vice President came to the White House at my invitation, and I informed
him of - brought him up to date, on the events of the past few days.
[ 6.] Q. Mr. President, can
you tell us the status of the mid-April economic review you promised?
THE PRESIDENT. Yes. I stated
at a previous conference at the end of I think 75 days we were going to
undertake a review of the economy. That is now under way under the direction
of Dr. Heller, and I hope when that survey is completed that we will have
a statement to make on it.
[ 7.] Q. Mr. President, respecting
your feeling of not going beyond your statement of yesterday on Cuba, there
still is in print this morning, quite widely distributed, a published report
that you took the decision to continue training Cuban refugees with arms
provided by this Government and for releasing ships and fuel for launching
the current operations in Cuba.
Furthermore, this report says
that you reached this decision against the advice of Secretary Rusk and
Mr. Bowles. Now, is this true?
THE PRESIDENT. I think that
the facts of the matter involving Cuba will come out in due time. I am
sure that an effort will be made to determine the facts accurately. As
for me, I am confining myself to my statement for good reason.
Q. Mr. President, this is not
a question about Cuba; it's a question about Castro.
Could you tell us whether any
intelligence that you have received can shed any light on the reports that
the Prime Minister has been incapacitated, that he has not been heard from
since Monday or Tuesday, or reports to that effect?
THE PRESIDENT. No, I cannot.
I saw some, I think some reference was on the ticker this morning that
Mr. Castro was seeing some members of the press today, so I suppose we
will have a better idea of that later on.
[ 8.] Q. Mr. President, the
leaders of House and Senate Republicans told us yesterday at a press conference
that they are setting up special study committees on the effect of automation
and technological improvements in agriculture as well as industry.
Are you hoping that your Democrats
in Congress will set up similar study committees? Do you need them?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, I do think
that on the Subcommittee on Labor, a subcommittee headed by Congressman
Holland, of Pennsylvania, has been conducting studies on the effect of
automation for some months.
In regard to the effect of automation
on agriculture, I think it is - some of our most serious problems which
have arisen in agriculture have been because of research combined with
automation, which have brought an extraordinary increase in production,
with far less manpower, so that I know that this problem is a matter of
substantial concern to all of us.
I am glad that the Republicans
are conducting this study, because I think all the attention we can get
by both parties into what I consider to be a genuine national problem,
automation - what happens to the people who are thrown out of work - I
think will be most useful. And agriculture, where we have a great increase
in production, with around 4 million people less than we had several years
ago, some years ago, in many ways is one of the most extraordinary and
admirable facets of our national life.
I think it is unfortunate that
we are not able to bring it more to the attention of the world where so
many people, including in the Soviet Union and in China, are spending most
of their time on subsistence agriculture, that we are able to have this
extraordinary production with very few people. But like all blessings,
they bring problems with them. And I am glad they are conducting the studies.
Q. Mr. President, at your last
news conference you expressed hope that the Soviets would agree within
a few days to a cease-fire in Laos. More than a week has gone by since
then and the Soviets have not agreed yet. Could you tell us how much longer
you will wait before contemplating other kinds of action?
THE PRESIDENT. I understand
that the British and the Soviets are conferring at the present time, using
it in a general sense, and we are hopeful that a cease-fire can be obtained
in Laos. We continue to be hopeful.
[ 10.] Q. Mr. President, Mr.
Nixon, on the Ev and Charlie Show yesterday said that he was going to give
you 10 days' grace to produce on your campaign promises that certain things
would be done by go days. Did he go into this or other domestic politics
in your White House meeting?
THE PRESIDENT. No, there was
nothing stated about - on politics. Mr. Nixon and I discussed matters of
national concern, and it was done in a wholly nonpolitical way. Mr. Nixon's
response was most helpful.
[ 11.] . Q. Mr. President, I
wonder if you would tell us what your grounds, your investigations of the
Maj. Gen. Ted Walker incident in Europe - if you will please tell us what
grounds you found for relieving him of his command for allegedly teaching
troops anti-Communist doctrine?
THE PRESIDENT. When I saw the
stories in regard to the things which had been said, or at least alleged
to have been said in regard to General Walker, I called Secretary McNamara
and asked him to investigate. Secretary McNamara then, I believe, suspended
General Walker - and my term may not be precise - "pending a completion
of investigation," but no decision has been made in regard to General Walker
until the investigation has been completed, to find out exactly what was
going on.
I do not believe that Secretary
McNamara took even that limited action, however, merely because he felt
that General Walker was teaching - talking against the Communists. That
was not the ground for concern. But no final decision, to the best of my
information, has been made on the matter of General Walker. He will be
given every opportunity, and those who have been critical of him will be
given every opportunity, to present their case. And a final decision will
then be made by Mr. McNamara, who will then bring the matter to my attention
and I will then review it, without prejudice to General Walker.
[ 12.] Q. Mr. President, you
don't seem to be pushing the space program nearly as energetically now
as you suggested during the campaign that you thought it should be pushed.
In view of the feeling of many people in this country that we must do everything
we can to catch up with the Russians as soon as possible, do you anticipate
applying any sort of crash program, or doing anything that would---
THE PRESIDENT. We have added,
I think it was $130 million to the budget on space several weeks ago, which
provides some speedup for Saturn, some speedup for Nova, some speedup for
Rover. And I will say that the budget for space next year will be around
$2 billion. Now, we are now and have been for some time attempting to make
a determination as to developing larger boosters, whether the emphasis
should be put on chemical, nuclear rockets or liquid fuel, how much this
would cost. And some of these programs have been estimated to be between
20 and 40 billion dollars.
We are attempting to make a
determination as to which program offers the best hope before we embark
on it, because you may commit a relatively small sum of money now for a
result in 1967, '68, or '69, which will cost you billions of dollars, and
therefore the Congress passed yesterday the bill providing for a Space
Council which will be chaired by the Vice President. We are attempting
to make a determination as to which of these various proposals offers the
best hope. When that determination is made we will then make a recommendation
to the Congress.
In addition, we have to consider
whether there is any program now, regardless of its cost, which offers
us hope of being pioneers in a project. It is possible to spend billions
of dollars in this project in space to the detriment of other programs
and still not be successful. We are behind, as I said before, in large
boosters.
We have to make a determination
whether there is any effort we could make in time or money which could
put us first in any new area. Now, I don't want to start spending the kind
of money that I am talking about without making a determination based on
careful scientific judgment as to whether a real success can be achieved,
or whether because we are so far behind now in this particular race we
are going to be second in this decade.
So I would say to you that it's
a matter of great concern, but I think before we break through and begin
a program which would not reach a completion, as you know, until the end
of this decade - for example, trips to the moon, may be 10 years off, maybe
a little less, but are quite far away and involve, as I say, enormous sums
- I don't think we ought to rush into it and begin them until we really
know where we are going - to end up. And that study is now being undertaken
under the direction of the Vice President.
Q. Mr. President, don't you
agree that we should try to get to the moon before the Russians, if we
can?
THE PRESIDENT. If we can get
to the moon before the Russians, we should.
Q. Mr. President, isn't it your
responsibility to apply the vigorous leadership to spark up this program?
THE PRESIDENT. When you say
"spark up the program," we first have to make a judgment based on the best
information we can get whether we can be ahead of the Russians to the moon.
We are now talking about a program which may be - which is many years away.
Q. The Saturn is still on a
40-hour week, isn't it, Mr. President?
THE PRESIDENT. We have, as I
say, appropriated $126 million more to the Saturn and we are attempting
to find out what else we can do. The Saturn is still going to put us well
behind. Saturn does not offer any hope of going to the - being first to
the moon. The Saturn is several years behind the Soviet Union. I can just
say to you that regardless of how much money we spend on Saturn, the Saturn
is going to put us - we are still going to be second.
The question is whether the
nuclear rocket or other kinds of chemical rockets offer us a better hope
of making a jump forward, but we are second, and the Saturn will not put
us first.
I want, however, to speed up,
if we can, the Saturn, and the Vice President is now leading a study to
see what we ought to do in this area.
[ 13.] Q. Mr. President, do
you anticipate that there will be a vote in both Houses of Congress this
year on your medical care program?
THE PRESIDENT. I don't know.
If we had a vote in the House it would depend, of course, on the action
of the Ways and Means Committee, so that I'm not - I haven't any information
yet as to whether we will get a vote in the House. It is possible that
there will be one in the Senate, which is not restricted by the same rules.
Q. There have been reports on
Capitol Hill that this administration has reconciled itself to no vote
on medical care this year.
THE PRESIDENT. In either body;
in either House?
Q. Yes, Sir.
THE PRESIDENT. Well, I haven't
seen the reports and I would not make that assumption. I am hopeful that
- we are dependent in the House on committee action. There can't be a vote
in the House without action by the committee because of the rules of germaneness.
In the Senate, however, there is a somewhat different situation, but there
is no rule of germaneness.
So it's possible that somebody
might offer the bill in the Senate as an amendment to another bill. I don't
know that yet, but it is very possible that you could get a vote in the
Senate this year.
The House is a different problem.
You can't get a vote unless the Ways and Means Committee acts.
[ 14.] Q. Mr. President, your
order to investigate General Walker suggests that you look askance at the
teachings of the John Birch Society. Can you tell us how you feel about
that organization?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, I don't
think that their judgments are based on accurate information of the kinds
of challenges that we face. I think we face an extremely serious and intensified
struggle with the Communists. But I'm not sure that the John Birch Society
is wrestling with the real problems which are created by the Communist
advance around the world.
I would hope that all those
who are strongly concerned about it would address themselves to the kinds
of problems which are created by Laos, Viet-Nam, by internal subversion,
by the desperate life lived by so many people in this hemisphere and in
other places which the Communists exploit.
These are the kinds of problems
that we are dealing with. I said something about them yesterday. The use
which the Communists make of democratic freedoms and the success which
they are able to - once they have seized power - success with which they
are able to maintain their power against dissent.
This seems to me to be the problem.
We have talked about and read stories of 7,000 to 15,000 guerrillas operating
in Viet-Nam, killing 2,000 civil officers a year and 2,000 police officers
a year - 4,000.
Now, there's been an election
in Viet-Nam in which 75 percent of the people, or 80 percent, endorse the
government. And yet we read how Viet-Nam is in danger because of guerrilla
operations carried on by this small well disciplined, well supplied, across
the border group of guerrillas.
How we fight that kind of a
problem which is going to be with us all through this decade seems to me
to be one of the great problems now before the United States. And I would
hope all those who are concerned about the advance of communism would face
that problem and not concern themselves with the loyalty of President Eisenhower
or President Truman or Mrs. Roosevelt or myself or someone else.
[ 15.] Q. Mr. President, was
your speech yesterday before the editors intended to suggest another approach
or a new departure in the administration's dealing with the Russians?
THE PRESIDENT. No - I didn't
- no.
Q. You have practiced what has
been described as the quiet diplomacy approach and your speech yesterday
seemed to suggest that you have perhaps decided upon another approach.
THE PRESIDENT. No, I wouldn't
attempt to make a judgment or response to that. I think that - I am concerned
about the kind of problem which I just described. I don't feel satisfied
that we have an effective answer to it yet and I think it's a matter of
greatest possible concern to all of us because I think events have been
moving with some speed.
The use which the Communists
make of democracy, and then when they seize power, the effectiveness with
which they manage the police apparatus so that dissent cannot arise and
so that the people can no longer express their will - liquidation by gunfire
of the opposition or by forcing them out of the country to be refugees
- this suggests the kind of a problem which we are going to have in this
decade.
And in my judgment it's an extremely
difficult matter for the free nations to deal with. But I must say that
it's a matter to which we must address all of our energy and all of our
attention.
[ 16.] Q. Mr. President, how
would you evaluate the present state of your domestic program in Congress?
THE PRESIDENT. I think we've
done better recently. Yesterday the Senate passed the $1.25 minimum wage.
There was action on aid to dependent children and on social security. The
vote in the Senate was very ample on the minimum wage. I think there were
only 28 votes against it so I think that at least yesterday there was -
we made progress.
Q. How much more, sir, do you
think needs to be done in order to give you a satisfactory score on your
hoped-for legislative program?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, I'm hopeful
that we can move ahead on the various other parts of the program, including
education and housing. We are making progress on social security, distressed
areas, and minimum wage. There may be other proposals which we might make
to the Congress after we've considered - completed our review of the economy
and made a judgment as to exactly what peak or plateau the economy is going
to reach this year. And that is what we're attempting to do now and to
see whether any additional Government programs may be necessary to encourage
it.
[ 17.] Q. Sir, since last Saturday
a certain foreign policy situation has given rise to many conflicting stories.
During that time reporters in Washington have noticed that there's been
a clamming up of information from formerly useful sources. To my knowledge
the State Department and the White House have not attempted to take a representative
group of reporters and say, "These are the facts as we know them," and
this morning we are not permitted to ask any further questions about this
foreign policy situation. In view of the fact we are taking a propaganda
lambasting around the world, why is it not useful, sir, for us to explore
with you the real facts behind this, or our motivations?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, I think,
in answer to your question, that we have to make a judgment as to how much
we can usefully say that would aid the interest of the United States. One
of the problems of a free society, a problem not met by a dictatorship,
is this problem of information. A good deal has been printed in the paper
and I wouldn't be surprised if those of you who are members of the press
will be receiving a lot of background briefings in the next day or two
by interested people or interested agencies.
There's an old saying that victory
has 100 fathers and defeat is an orphan. And I wouldn't be surprised if
information is poured into you in regard to all of the recent activities.
Now, I think we see some of
the problems, to move from this particular case into the problem of space
where in the Soviet Union no reports were made in regard to any experiments
that they carried out on "our man in space." I saw in a national magazine
about some student who said the Americans talk a good deal about their
man in space, the Soviet Union says nothing and yet it wins. That is one
of
the problems of a democracy competing and carrying on a struggle for survival
against a dictatorship.
But I will say to you, Mr. Vanocur,
that I have said as much as I feel can be usefully said by me in regard
to the events of the past few days. Further statements, detailed discussions,
are not to conceal responsibility because I'm the responsible officer of
the Government - and that is quite obvious - but merely because I do not
believe that such a discussion would benefit us during the present difficult
situation.
But as I say, I think you'll
be informed and some of the information, based on what I have seen, will
not be accurate.
[ 18.] Q. Mr. President, have
you any assurance your tax investment incentive plan will be supported
in Congress?
THE PRESIDENT. No, I think it
will be a hard fight because the plan when it was sent up was intended
to secure as much revenue as may have been lost because of the tax credit
plan. The tax credit plan puts special emphasis on stimulating new industry
and therefore new employment, but in order to make up the revenues we lost
by the tax credit plan we have had to take control of other revenues, and
of course those people are going to object - the expense accounts and the
dividend credits and so on, so that I think we will have a hard fight.
Q. You asked for it at this
session - do you think your educational program will be persuasive this
session?
THE PRESIDENT. I hope so because
I really believe that the tax credit program, in fact, the whole tax bill,
was carefully considered by people in the Treasury as well as the Council
of Economic Advisers. It had the strong support of Mr. Dillon and others
who have given this matter great consideration. I am hopeful that Congress
will respond favorably. But it is a technical matter, it involves important
interests. And I think it will have a - be very soberly considered, which
I hope it will be. But I am hopeful that it will pass and I think it would
be useful if it would.
[ 19.] Q. Mr. President,
are you contemplating visiting any other countries besides France on your
trip at the end of May to see General de Gaulle?
THE PRESIDENT. I am planning
- my only present plan is to go to France.
Q. There had been some talk
that you're going to London, I understand, to christen the Radziwill baby.
THE PRESIDENT. Well, that has
been considered but I've not reached any judgment on it. I think there
is some interest by the family and it would really be a question of whether
we could - whether it would be the best thing to do.
[ 20.] Q. Mr. President, would
you explain the reason for the dropping of espionage charges in Chicago
recently against the Russian spy Melekh, and was that a part of a bargain
for the RB-47 fliers?
THE PRESIDENT. In answer to
the last part of the question, it was not. There was no connection. The
dropping of the charges was made after an examination of the details of
the case and of the national interest and it was felt that it would be
useful to take the action we took. I am sorry I can't be more responsive
but I will say it was not in regard to the RB-47 fliers.
[ 21.] Q. Mr. President, we
have demonstrated a great capability in space and communications and meteorology.
While these are not as dramatic as a man orbiting in space, there has been
a strong feeling among scientists the world over that the country that
would first develop a space telecommunications system to bring communications
within the reach of every nation in the world at the price they could afford
would make an even greater impact than the country that orbited man first
in space.
Are you considering putting
more funds, because you have cut some, in both communications and meteorology
- are you considering adding more funds to the budget?
THE PRESIDENT. Yes, I believe
that we have, or are about to, if we haven't already done so, put an additional
- and I just have to go from memory now, of a decision made several weeks
ago - I am under the impression that we decided to put another 25 to 27
million dollars into a communication satellite as part of this general
program.
Q. Yes, but industry also has
been interested in putting its funds in it, and there was a statement by
Mr. Webb that we weren't going to at this point put any of this program
into industry's hands until we had investigated further. Since they're
willing to spend money, are you considering perhaps allowing them to share
the cost and advance this program?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, I don't
know enough about the matter to give you a detailed answer, except I do
know that we did put an additional sum of money for a communications satellite,
amounting to the sum that I suggested there. Now if there are any other
further things that can be done, or if anyone else wants to put their money
into it, I am sure that Mr. Webb would be agreeable. But I must say from
examining this and other programs, I find that the Government puts most
of the money into them.
[ 22.] Q. Mr. President, do
you intend to send Vice President Johnson to Southeast Asia soon?
THE PRESIDENT. We have been
considering the Vice President going to Southeast Asia, and I think a decision
will be reached on that in the next - perhaps over the weekend or the next
few days.
[ 23.] Q. Given the stress that
you've put this morning and in recent days on this problem of fighting
the indirect Communist tactics, do you still - and also given the rather
harsh language out of Moscow, including Mr. Khrushchev's note to you -
do you still feel that it is useful to go ahead with efforts at the diplomatic
level to negotiate formal agreements with the Soviet Government?
THE PRESIDENT. Well, we still
continue to hope that some agreement could be reached on the cessation
of nuclear tests. We are, of course, very discouraged by the newest insistence
of the Soviets on a veto. It's quite obvious that the Senate would not
accept such a treaty nor would I send it to the Senate, because the inspection
system then would not provide any guarantees at all.
Now, I noticed the language
used by Mr. Khrushchev himself, not merely one of his representatives,
in Mr. Lippmann's article, a strong insistence on the tripartite and on
unanimous agreement in regard to the inspection system. I am hopeful that
there may be a change in that. But if there isn't a change in that position,
it is going to be very hard to get an agreement. But I believe that Mr.
Dean should continue because if these test conversations should break up,
then of course our hopes of getting any agreement on disarmament would
be substantially lessened and we could look for a proliferation of atomic
testing in other countries.
So that I feel that Mr. Dean
should continue, though we have been discouraged by the Russian position.
Q. Do you feel, sir, that it
is possible to have really a two-level operation here, an undeclared kind
of warfare which you have been talking about, and yet a formalized effort
not only in the test ban negotiations but in terms of exchanges and other
types of negotiations? Are these two things compatible?
THE PRESIDENT. The incompatibility
may rest in the fact that it's hard to get an agreement on any matter when
there is suspicion between the two systems and when one of the systems
are pressing their interest with great vigor around the world.
It makes the chances of getting
any agreement far less. I thought the best hope was the nuclear testing,
even though it was always true that the obstacles were large.
But if there is any chance at
all of getting an agreement on a cessation of nuclear tests, regardless
of what appear to be the obstacles, I think we should press on.
So in answer to your question,
I still believe that Mr. Dean should continue to work at Geneva.
Reporter. Thank you, Mr. President.